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Calling for a moratorium on Muslim immigration “until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on,” Donald Trump this week ignited a firestorm of historic proportions.
As all the old hate words — xenophobe, racist, bigot — have lost their electric charge from overuse, and Trump was being called a fascist demagogue and compared to Hitler and Mussolini.
The establishment seems to have become unhinged.
Why the hysteria? Comes the reply: Trump’s call for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration tramples all over “American values” and everything we stand for, including the Constitution.
But is this really true?
* I DISAGREE WITH A TOTAL BAN - TEMPORARY OR OTHERWISE - BUT NO, SUCH A PROPOSAL IS FAIR GAME FOR LEGITIMATE DISCUSSION.
The Constitution protects freedom of religion for U.S. citizens. But citizens of foreign lands have no constitutional right to migrate.
* UNFORTUNATELY... IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. THE COURTS (SUPREME COURT AS WELL) HAVE OVER TIME RULED THAT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS HAVE "MODIFIED" CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS DEPENDING UPON CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT... WE'RE TALKING PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HERE. WHEN IT COMES TO FOREIGNERS IN FOREIGN LANDS... NO... THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
And federal law gives a president broad powers in deciding who comes and who does not, especially in wartime.
* AGAIN... THE CONSTITUTION GIVE CONGRESS SOLE POWER OVER ISSUES OF NATURALIZATION.
* AS TO THIS "WARTIME" ISSUE... ARE WE AT WAR? IF SO, WHAT WILL SIGNAL "PEACE?" (FOLKS... MY POINT IS THAT FROM A POWER-MAD POLITICIAN'S STANDPOINT... WAR WITHOUT END IS THE ULTIMATE EMPOWERMENT. YOU NEED TO WISE UP AS TO WHAT THIS "WAR ON TERROR" REALLY MEANS.)
In 1924, Congress restricted immigration from Asia, reduced the numbers coming from southern and Central Europe, and produced a 40-year moratorium on most immigration into the United States.
Its authors and President Coolidge wanted ours to remain a nation whose primary religious and ethnic ties were to Europe, not Africa or Asia.
* THUMBS UP ASIDE... THAT SHIP HAS SAILED. DEMOGRAPHIC REALITY POINTS TO THE FACT THAT... THE LEFT HAS ALREADY WON. WHAT THE KENNEDY IMMIGRATION "REFORMS" OF '64/'65 SET IN MOTION... ENSURED VICTORY FOR THE FORCES OF PROGRESSIVE INTERNATIONALISM.
Under FDR, Truman and JFK, this was the law of the land. Did this represent 40 years of fascism?
* OBVIOUSLY NOT - BUT THE PRESENT-DAY LEFT DOESN'T CARE. THE QUESTION - AND THE ANSWER - ARE IRRELEVANT.
Why might Trump want a moratorium on Muslim immigration?
Reason one: terrorism. The 9/11 terrorists were Muslim, as were the shoe and underwear bombers on those planes, the Fort Hood shooter, the Times Square bomber and the San Bernardino killers.
And as San Bernardino showed again, Islamist terrorists are exploiting our liberal immigration policies to come here and kill us.
Thus, a pause, a timeout on immigration from Muslim countries, until we fix the problem, would seem to be simple common sense.
* ACTUALLY... NO. BUT... PROFILING WOULD BE COMMON SENSE! WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY!
Second, Muslims are clearly more susceptible to the siren call of terrorism, and more likely to be radicalized on the Internet and in mosques than are Christians at church or Jews at synagogue.
* SADLY... TRUE.
Which is why we monitor mosques more closely than cathedrals.
Third, according to Harvard’s late Samuel Huntington, a “clash of civilizations” is coming between the West and the Islamic world. Other scholars somberly concur. But if such a conflict is in the cards, how many more millions of devout Muslims do we want inside the gates?
* A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS IS ONGOING BETWEEN NOT JUST THE WEST AND THE ISLAMIC WORLD, BUT BETWEEN EAST AND WEST.
* FOLKS... THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FOCUSED ON "TERRORIST CELLS"... I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE INTELLIGENCE NETWORK THE CHINESE HAVE IN PLACE MAKES ANY TERRORIST INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE AMATEUR HOUR.
Set aside al-Qaida, ISIS and their sympathizers. Among the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide are untold millions of followers of the Prophet who pray for the coming of a day when sharia is universal and the infidels, i.e., everyone else, are either converted or subjugated.
* BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. I DON'T CARE ABOUT PRAYERS. I'M ONLY CONCERNED WITH ACTIONS.
In nations where Muslims are already huge majorities, where are the Jews? Where have all the Christians gone?
* HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF IDI AMIN? HOW'BOUT RWANDA? I COULD GO ON AND ON... BUT MY POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT QUITE AS SIMPLE AND FOCUSED AS PAT POSITS. ISIS/ISIL IS HOWEVER A HUGE PROBLEM. CERTAINLY WHAT PAT REFERS TO IS HAPPENING IN AREAS THEY CONTROL. (AS TO THE JEWS... I DO BELIEVE NAZI GERMANY WAS MAINLY LUTHERAN.)
With ethnic and sectarian wars raging in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, Libya, Nigeria and Somalia, why would we bring into our own country people from all sides of these murderous conflicts?
* NOW THAT'S A REASONABLE POINT!
Many European nations — Germans, French, Swedes, Brits — appear to regret having thrown open their doors to immigrants and refugees from the Islamic world, who have now formed unassimilated clusters and enclaves inside their countries.
Ought we not explore why, before we continue down this road?
* SANE LEADERS CERTAINLY WOULD. THE PROBLEM... MOST OF OUR LEADERS... AIN'T SANE.
In some countries of the Muslim world, Americans who embrace “Hollywood values” regarding abortion, adultery and homosexuality, can get their heads chopped off as quickly as converts to Christianity.
* AND... THAT'S FINE. I DON'T CARE. LET FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND FOREIGN PEOPLE RUN THEIR SOCIETIES AS THEY SEE FIT. NOT MY PROBLEM UNLESS THEY COME OVER HERE AND TRY TO CHANGE US. (AND YOU KNOW... IN CERTAIN RESPECT... IN MANY RESPECT... WE HAVE BECOME A DEGENERATE CULTURE. IN MANY WAYS IT'S HARD TO BLAME THE ISLAMISTS FOR LOOKING UPON OUR SOCIETY AS... DISGUSTING. I MEAN... I OFTEN DO!)
In what Muslim countries does Earl Warren’s interpretation of the First Amendment — about any and all religious presence being banned in public schools and all religions being treated equally — apply?
* WARREN WAS... NUTS. (UNFORTUNATELY... HE WAS ALSO EFFECTIVE.)
When is the next “Crusade for Christ” coming to Saudi Arabia?
* NEVER. (AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME! IT'S SAUDI ARABIA!)
Japan has no immigration from the Muslim world, nor does Israel, which declares itself a Jewish state. Are they also fascistic?
* I'VE ALWAYS LIKED THE JAPANESE. ISRAEL? MORE OF A LOVE/HATE THING.
President Obama and the guilt-besotted West often bawl their apologies for the horrors of the Crusades that liberated Jerusalem.
* THE CRUSADES...
(*JUST SHAKING MY HEAD*)
Anyone heard Muslim rulers lately apologizing for Saladin, who butchered Christians to take Jerusalem back, or for Suleiman the Magnificent, who conquered the Christian Balkans rampaging through Hungary all the way to the gates of Vienna?
Trump’s surge this week, in the teeth of universal denunciation, suggests that a large slice of America agrees with his indictment — that our political-media establishment is dumb as a box of rocks and leading us down a path to national suicide.
* TRUE. BUT THE FLIP-SIDE IS THAT THE AMERICAN SHEEPLE ARE ALSO LARGELY DUMB AS ROCKS. (THUS... OUR PRESENT SITUATION.)
Trump’s success tells us that the American people really do not celebrate “globalization.”
* FAR, FAR, FAR TOO MANY DO, I'M AFRAID...
They think our negotiators got snookered out of the most magnificent industrial machine ever built, which once guaranteed our workers the highest standard of living on earth.
* NOPE. SELF-SERVING TRAITORS DELIBERATELY SOLD AMERICA DOWN THE RIVER. (TRUE... THERE WAS SOME STUPIDITY AND NAIVETY INVOLVED... EVEN SOME PLAIN OL' MISCALCULATION... BUT DON'T FOOL YOURSELVES - THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF BASIC BACK-STABBING.)
The American People don’t want open borders or mass immigration. They want people here illegally to be sent back, the borders secured, and a moratorium imposed on Muslim immigration until we fix the broken system.
* YES. AGREED. A MAJORITY DO. BUT... SINCE WHEN DO THE MAJORITY HAVE A SAY IN ANYTHING?
(*SNORTING AS I SMIRK*)
As for the Establishment, the People are saying pretty much what The Donald is saying. To paraphrase Oliver Cromwell’s speech to the Rump Parliament: "You have sat here too long for any good you have done here. In the name of God, go!"
* UNFORTUNATELY... UNLESS WE'RE WILLING TO - LITERALLY - START KILLING KEY MEMBERS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT... SPEECHES ARE ALL WE'LL GET WHILE THE ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUES TO DESTROY FROM WITHIN WHAT USED TO BE THE GREATEST NATION - AND THE GREATEST PEOPLE - THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN.