Tuesday, October 16, 2012

More Biden Lies?

Despite statements by Vice President Joe Biden, the State Department is about to begin formal negotiations over the extension of U.S. troops past 2014, a top State Department official said Tuesday.

Let's not kid ourselves, folks, this has been the plan all along - say one thing publicly for political gain... pursue the opposite policy in private for... well... your guess is as good as mine. As you know, I personally believe we should have pulled out of Afghanistan the moment Karzai was installed (elected) as President of that country.

Last week, U.S. and Afghan negotiators met in Kabul to talk about the Bilateral Security Agreement that will govern the extension of U.S. troops past 2014, when President Barack Obama said the combat mission in Afghanistan will end and the U.S. will complete the transition of the entire country to Afghan government control.

Ahh, yes... the Afghan government.


Biden told Americans during his Oct. 11 debate with Republican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan that U.S. troops were leaving Afghanistan by 2014.

"We are leaving in 2014, period, and in the process, we're going to be saving over the next 10 years another $800 billion," Biden said. "We've been in this war for over a decade. The primary objective is almost completed. Now all we're doing is putting the Kabul government in a position to be able to maintain their own security. It's their responsibility, not America's."

Marc Grossman, the State Department's special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, explained today that's not the whole story.

Biden lied. Period. He didn't "misspeak." He lied. Again.

Grossman said Tuesday that the point of the upcoming negotiations is to agree on an extension of the U.S. troop presence well past 2014, for the purposes of conducting counter-terrorism operations and training and advising the Afghan security forces.

Well... past... 2014...

In May, Obama and Afghan President Hamid Karzai signed a Strategic Partnership Agreement that promised an ongoing U.S. commitment to Afghanistan through 2024.

Folks... understand... these bastards plan on spending billions upon billions of our tax dollars in Afghanistan for years to come! God only knows what the price in America blood will be if Obama gets his way.

Counter-terrorism operations...? Americans regularly die conducting counter-terrorism operations!

Training and advising Afghan security forces...? How many more Americans must be murdered by the very people we're "training?"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced Oct. 3 that Grossman's deputy, James Warlick, will be the lead U.S. negotiator for the Bilateral Security Agreement that will follow. Karzai's Ambassador to Washington Eklil Hakimi will lead the negotiations for the Afghan side.

But... but... but... both sides are "negotiating" AGAINST the interests of the American People and against the will of the American People! It's insane!

Grossman said that while meetings on "how we will manage our forces going forward in Afghanistan," have already taken place, formal negotiations have not yet begun.

As I wrote up above, folks... this shit has been going on all along. Obama is - and has been - playing a double game. Neither Obama nor Biden can be trusted. As for Hillary Rodham Clinton... if you don't "get" by now that she's a total incompetent... an empty suit who attained power only via her husband's power... then I fear you'll never acknowledge reality.

Once the negotiations formally start, the Bilateral Security Agreement must be completed within one year, according to the Strategic Partnership agreement, Grossman explained.

Folks... com'on... we're talking about the people who "deemed" ObamaCare legislation "passed."

Folk... we're talking about the "waiver" crowd!

Folks... jeezus... we're talking a President who misuses so-called "Executive Orders" to rule by "decree."

My... friggin'... God... we're talking the party that has controlled the Senate since 2007 and under whose control no budgets have even made it to a vote in the Senate over the past four years!

Some U.S. military officials have said the plan is to keep 25,000 American troops in Afghanistan past 2014, but Grossman insisted that there is no number yet and the 25,000 figure quoted in reports is speculative.

Oh, please... they're lying through their teeth! Heck... it may actually be more than 25,000 when all is said and done!

NATO announced Monday that it will also keep international troops in Afghanistan past 2014 alongside U.S. troops, not for combat but strictly for the mission of training and advising the Afghans.

And who is gonna pay for these foreign troops to be in Afghanistan? (Ya wanna take a guess...?!?!)

Grossman was speaking on a panel at the annual summit of the International Stability Operations Association in Washington. Also on the panel was Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy, who said that the State Department would need U.S. military troops in Afghanistan to protect them and help them well past 2014.


"Rather than developing our own capabilities, we will be depending on DOD support for functions such as a quick reaction force, personnel recovery, fuel support, explosive ordinance disposal, and medical assistance, by 2015," Kennedy said.

Patrick Kennedy...


The Cable also asked Kennedy why he testified in a hearing last week that he was "inclined" to support the requests for more security in Libya before the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.


Kennedy declined to comment.


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