Thursday, October 29, 2009

True Health Insurance/Health Care Reform


It ain't rocket science, folks.

You want some "talking points" regarding what true health insurance/health care "reform" would look like? Fine. Here ya go:

1) Restore the concept of "insurance" to... er... insurance. By this I mean we need to link insurance costs to actuarial reality. As for subsidies, "safety nets," these need to be balanced against fiscal and economic reality. At some point the books need to balance, the math needs to "proof."

2) In line with Point 1, America needs to jettison the concept of "bumper-to-bumper" health insurance providing coverage for routine, usual, and otherwise to be expected medical expenses. The only medical insurance Americans should have - and must have - is catastrophic insurance.

3) Catastrophic insurance from birth till death must be a mandate. Period. The premium costs for minors will be the responsibility of the parents.

4) Insurance must be decoupled from employment and refocused as an individual responsibility. "Employer provided" insurance must be stricken from the American lexicon.

5) Actuarial realities will be and must be "smoothed out" to a certain extent; a social safety net must and will continue to exist. This said... we must as a society recognize that for most there can be no "free lunch" and that medical care must be paid for just as we pay for food, shelter, housing, transportation, entertainment, clothing, and all other human wants and needs.

So... to tie these "talking points" into a (hopefully) more coherent whole...

We're all going to die. Most of us will be hospitalized at some point during our lives. There's a good chance that end of life care - the last weeks, months, or even years of one's life depending upon individual circumstances - will result in extensive health expenditures.

As a general rule of thumb, with age comes illness - at least comparatively. At the same time, reality is that the young are particularly prone to broken bones, woman in their 20's and 30's are likely to have babies, men tend to come down with a variety of "middle age" health complaints in their 40's.

All of this is normal! It's to be expected! It's the cost of life! Americans must accept all this and accept that "insurance" is not for protection against common occurrences, but rather a protection - one funded via premiums, premiums that make economic sense according to the best actuarial science available - against economic catastrophe in the face of extraordinary calls upon normal individual and family economic resources.

There's a reason we don't buy "gas insurance" to keep our cars tanks full.

There's a reason we don't buy "food insurance" to keep the fridge stocked.

There's a reason why when your boiler craps out or your roof needs replacing that you're expected to either tap your savings or borrow in order to deal with the situation.

Americans need to grow up. Grown men and women need to wake up to reality!

One thing President Obama and the Democrats say which is absolutely correct is that the present system is unsustainable. The problem with their arguments is... they're right... but they don't understand why they're right. They don't understand that their proposed "solution" of more socialism and less personal responsibility is the wrong solution, one which builds on the mistaken policies of the past rather than reverses them as is necessary if we're to get out of the mess government policies have steered us into.

It started back during WW-2. With wage and price controls shackling employers with regard to using pay incentives to keep and attract the best workers, employers instead used "benefits" as the carrot with not only the full approval of the federal government, but the subsidization of the federal government. You see, these "health insurance/health care" benefits, unlike case wages, were non-taxable to the employee and a write-off to the employer.

After the War... for political reasons the government stuck to this subsidy policy and today, more than half a century later, we're still sticking to this system that almost everyone of all political and ideological stripes sees as unsustainable in the long term.

My God, think how unfair it is to tie tax free health insurance benefits not only to employment, but worse yet, only certain employment - employment which provides such benefits in the first place. Think about it... such a system creates circumstances where you may have a single mom working three separate part time jobs - none offering paid benefits - to support herself and her children. Let's say this woman's total yearly salary compensation for her 70-hour weeks is $60,000/yr. With no tax free company provided health insurance she pays out of pocket for health insurance - let's say $8,000/yr. Sure, she gets a partial benefit of being able to pay for her out of pocket health insurance premiums with "pre-tax" dollars, but that's a far cry from situation faced by a corporate executive. Consider... you're an executive at a Fortune 50 Company. Let's say you make ten times the single mom's salary - so you're pulling in $600,000/yr. On top of this the company provides you with top of the line family health insurance - the finest money can buy - at say... oh... $25,000/yr. This means that in truth your total compensation is $625,000/yr., but because the health insurance "benefit" is tax free... that additional $25,000 health insurance compensation is tax free to you - to you... the guy making over half a million dollars a year. That's insane! That's irrational on the face of it!

Bottom line... we need less government involvement in health care and particularly health insurance. President Obama and the Democrats will tell you that we need more government regulation of health insurance and health care. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have too much regulation as it is! Think about it... 50 states... each with it's own insurance department... each with it's own insurance commissioner... each with it's own insurance regulations and onerous mandated micromanagement of coverage requirements. Here in New York State I can't even purchase a true catastrophic plan and link it effectively to an MSA/HSA. New York State government denies me this option - this choice! (And folks... New York is not alone...)

Sure. State regulation to ensure transparent, understandable contracts between the insurer and the insured, but that's it. That's where state regulation should begin and end. As for federal regulation...

The federal government should do two things:

1) Mandate catastrophic coverage for all Americans with adults being allowed to opt out only if they are willing to sign away any and all "rights" to government paid for heath care as long as they remain uninsured. (And for those adults who opt out and then choose to opt back in... sure... but this gap would be addressed in higher premiums when they do opt back in - and they could only opt back in after a physical that they paid for showed that they had no pre-existing conditions; pre-existing conditions would not be covered unless they were pre-existing conditions that originally existed prior to the opt-out.)

2) The government subsidized employer provided bumper-to-bumper employer provided insurance must give way to individual and family Medical Savings Accounts/Health Savings Accounts that are coupled with catastrophic care policies which kick in once a certain threshold of yearly or periodic medical spending has been covered out of pocket by the individual and/or family.

Now as much as I may believe in the philosophical case against using the tax code for social engineering purposes, this being the real world and not just "Bill's World" I'm willing to concede that in order to switch from the present dysfunctional system to a MSA/HSA system coupled with catastrophic coverage it might be incumbent to provide for favorable tax treatment of such health care payment and catastrophic health care insurance vehicles. Fine. My basic thrust... we need to create a self-sustaining system to finance health care as opposed to the insurance focused debate presently at the forefront of political discourse.

14 comments:

Rodak said...

A $75 visit to a walk-in primary care clinic is "catastrophic" to a man who would have to choose between seeking that service and feeding his kids. And that principle can be sent climbing the ladder until we reach a height where personal wealth is so great that no amount spent for medical care results in a choice between two necessities.
If "pay as you go" medical care were possible for most people, there never would have been health insurance in the first place. Health insurance was "invented" out of necessity.
If routine care were not preventative of the probable need for "catastrophic care," the medical profession would not mandate it.
If routine care was affordable for the most people, insurance would not be covering it now.
Basing one's logic on the ledger book does not address the realities of the situation. This is exactly why conservatism is intrinsically atheistic and morally bankrupt, although it may be fiscally sound.
And, since conservatism generally supports war, even though war is every bit as fiscally unsound as socialized charity, conservatism is also monumentally hypocritical in its very essence. This is especially true of those conservatives who claim to be Christians.
If Satan (the principle of matter, and the prince of this world) is one's lord and mentor, as demonstrated by one's beliefs and actions, one should proclaim it out loud. But we know that Satan was a liar from the git-go, so one doesn't. Does one?

William R. Barker said...

"A $75 visit to a walk-in primary care clinic is "catastrophic" to a man who would have to choose between seeking that service and feeding his kids."

Yet a $75 WEEKLY trip to the grocery store isn't...???

See, Rob, here's your mistake: You're looking at health care expenditures in a vacuum and artificially (and illogically) declaring that it's intolerable to ask a person to pay $75 for a doctor's visit yet of course we think nothing of asking this same person to pick up all other expenses of his life.

Now you may respond that we have food stamps and housing assistance, etc., and you'd be right. But that doesn't challenge my point because as I've said again and again (here on my blog and in different venues) I do not oppose providing a social safety net for health care.

Thing is... I want that social safety net - that subsidy - to be as limited as it is for food stamps and housing assistance.

We already have Medicaid. We already have Section 8 (???) Housing. What we don't want is to turn the entire system into Medicaid and Section 8 Housing.

"If routine care was affordable for the most people, insurance would not be covering it now."

Wrong. As I explained, our current system is a remnant of WW-2 domestic economic policy put in place to assist in the extraordinary war effort of vanquishing both Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. Prior to WW-2 and it's aftermath the norm was fee for service backed by catastrophic insurance for those who chose to purchase it (just as one chooses to purchase Life Insurance.)

Rob. Pay attention. You can't simply make up your own reality. The facts are the facts and the logic depends upon recognizing the facts.

Anyway... browsing through the rest of your commentary it's clear you're once again off your meds and so further discussion of the topic with you is probably not worth the time or effort.

Hey... when you're willing to go back on your meds try posting again and I'll gladly go back and forth with you.

Rob. Help yourself. People love you and when you go off the deep end your family and friends suffer.

I know you feel "free" when your off the meds, but bud... there's such a thing as too much "freedom."

Good luck.

Your pal,

BILL

Rodak said...

If "what we already have" were adequate, then we wouldn't have people going bankrupt and people losing their houses over medical bills: the system doesn't work. I'm not addressing those families that are designated as below the poverty level and eligible for welfare programs. I'm addressing those middle-class families of the kind that we read are going bankrupt and losing their homes because they either don't have, or can't get, health insurance adequate to meet the expenses of a medical procedure of one kind or another.
Let me ask you this, seriously: what is the value-added to medical care by the agency of the insurance broker? All he does is pay your bills (or not) and skim off a profit for his corporation.
Why can't a government agency, which only needs to skim of administrative costs--not profit--pay those bills just as easily?
Again--what is the value-added to health care by corporate profit-taking?
This need not be a government health service like they have in the UK, where the government employs the health care providers. It can be like the Canadian system, where the health care is provided by free agents, but paid by the gov't, rather than by corporate bureaucrats.
The pain of the expense is shared by all, in the same way that expenses of national defense, etc., are shared by all.
Other than the myth of the "evil government," I fail to see the objection to this.
I mean, really: corporate America is less evil than the government?
Ideally, you have some control over your congressman; you have no control over the insurance company bureaucrat who is now deciding what procedures you can get and how much your doctor can be paid.
What value does that corporate bureaucrat provide TO YOU for the money paid him by you and/or your employer?
What good is a "health care savings account" to me if it gets wiped out annually as it goes along, as it surely would for most families of four? What happens when what I can afford to put aside is not adequate, but I make too much to qualify for Medicare, or whatever, and my need does not qualify as "catastrophic" although it's necessary?
Single-payer wipes out all of those worries. Europeans don't even need to think about such things. Why should Americans have to?

William R. Barker said...

Hmm... when I try to respond to Rob's 11:33 am comment I get:

Your HTML cannot be accepted: Must be at most 4,096 characters

That's weird!

BILL

William R. Barker said...

OK... let me try breaking my response up:

Because I'm just "that kind of guy" I'll keep on TRYING to get through to you, Rob.

(*WINK*)

"If what we already have were adequate, then we wouldn't have people going bankrupt..."

Rob. People go bankrupt for all sorts of reasons.

(Hey... let's skip to the bottom line: You believe capitalism is inadequate - is the "wrong" system - and prefer socialism. In advancement of that philosophy you'll focus on "bankruptcy" or indeed on any mud you can think of throwing against the wall hoping some will stick.)

"I'm addressing those middle-class families of the kind that we read are going bankrupt and losing their homes because they either don't have, or can't get, health insurance..."

Yet they own homes - which they purchased - upon which the foreclosures fall...???

(*RUEFUL SMILE*)

Rob. You're making my point. If you can't afford both a house and insurance, perhaps you should rent until you can afford both.

Better yet, under my proposal insurance wouldn't BE unaffordable for so many because premiums for catastrophic insurance even with out of pocket expenditures for normal and expected care factored in and paid for out of MSAs and HSAs would BE affordable.

(*SIGH*)

(Folks... he just doesn't listen; it goes in one ear and out the other...)


* To be continued...

BILL

William R. Barker said...

OK... it seemed to like that. Let's try continuing:

"Let me ask you this, seriously: what is the value-added to medical care by the agency of the insurance broker?"

I'm all in favor of direct purchase. Those who care to stick with using a broker should be free to do so, but as for me, I'd rather purchase directly. (In other words, Rob, I'm not arguing with you on this one.)

(*SMILE*)

"Why can't a government agency, which only needs to skim of administrative costs - not profit - pay those bills just as easily?"

Wrong question! But an excellent intro to my question - my contention, actually - that there should be no middleman. What I want to do is empower individuals, not government.

(*SHRUG*)

"This need not be a government health service like they have in the UK, where the government employs the health care providers. It can be like the Canadian system, where the health care is provided by free agents, but paid by the government, rather than by corporate bureaucrats."

Again. I find both methods unwieldy and unwise. Me? I want individuals to take charge of their medical responsibilities just as they take charge of their housing responsibilities, etc.

(*SHRUG*)

"The pain of the expense is shared by all, in the same way that expenses of national defense, etc., are shared by all."

AGAIN, Rob... I UNDERSTAND your philosophy; I simply disagree with it. Rob. You could use the same exact "logic" to call for government to control all housing decisions, etc.

(Rob. I don't mind going back and forth with you, but we're going in circles.)

"Ideally, you have some control over your congressman; you have no control over the insurance company bureaucrat who is now deciding what procedures you can get and how much your doctor can be paid."

Rob. Under my proposals this would only be an issue upon a health issue reaching catastrophic proportions. At that point... yes... obviously there would be (as I've noted time and again) regulation ensuring that the patient gets what he or she has been paying for, has been promised, in the catastrophic insurance contract he has signed up for.

"What good is a "health care savings account" to me if it gets wiped out annually..."

But except in the most extraordinary circumstances these accounts WOULDN'T be wiped out annually because the average American (the average human being for that matter) doesn't suffer yearly health catastrophes.

(*SIGH*) (*HEADACHE*)

For the vast majority of Americans, under my proposed system folks would build health care nest eggs (via contributing most years more to the plan than they take from the plan and rolling over the savings at compound interest) ALL THE WHILE BEING INSURED FOR CATASTROPHIC OCCURRENCES...!!!

Rob. Under my proposal, the vast majority of Americans would have not only decades of "excess" MSA/HSA contributions ready to assist with retirement health care expenses, but, at death what remains could be willed to the MSA/HSA of designated beneficiaries.

(*SMILE*)

Rob. Please. Pay attention to what I actually write - what I actually propose. Don't confuse *my* actual proposals to your vision of what I haven't proposed.

(*WINK*)

BILL

Rodak said...

You clearly have no conception of what it would be like for a family with a couple of young children, who need check-ups and innoculations every year, for school; and who get sick several times a year, as all kids do; and the wife needs her gynecology; etc., even if she doesn't get sick--and they are trying to live on $25-30K/annum--pay rent, or mortage, plus utilities; make at least one, possibly two, car payments; etc. Probably the husband doesn't go to the doctor at all. Unless he get quick ill, or injured on the job, etc. And then there's dentistry, which most people don't have insurance for, and which is a couple hundred bucks a pop, just for x-rays and cleaning. This family isn't poor; isn't getting any assistance; and can't afford routine health care without extreme hardship. That's just not right. Health care should not be thought of, or treated the same as, discretionary spending.
If enough govenment subsidy is provided to allow such families to "pay their own way," it's hard to see how the cost to the rest of tax-payers would be less than it would be with single-payer, to which all would contribute on a graduated scale, down to the poverty level.
The rich could always buy supplemental coverage, as the rich do now in Europe, if they want private "Cadillac coverage." They rest would be happy to "wait in line" rather than "go without" if those would be the alternatives.

William R. Barker said...

"You clearly have no conception of what it would be like for a family with a couple of young children, who need check-ups and inoculations every year..."

Yet somehow the parents can afford to have two children in the first place...???

Somehow the parents can afford to FEED two children... to CLOTH two children... to SHELTER two children... and so on and so forth...???

Rob. It really is too bad my blog doesn't get a wide audience. This is indeed a fascinating on point back and forth.

You continue to simply bypass the reality I constantly point to and the logic implied within such reality. Yes... that's your style... your s.o.p. ... but it gives me the chance to keep on pounding home my points.

(*WINK*)

Plus... I'm dealing with your questions as if we're limiting the "sample population" to reasonable, rational, parents who scrimp, save, and behave responsibly as opposed to all the parents I know who spend thousands of dollars a year on the latest toys and games and fashions and fads for little Dick and little Jane.

(*SHRUG*) (*SMILE*)

Rob. Parents who can afford to buy their kids the trappings of the modern (or at least pre-recession) middle class child/tween/teen should certainly be expected to spring for vaccinations.

(*SMIRK*)

"...trying to live on $25-$30K..."

Again, Rob, you're focused on the minority; I'm focused on the great mass of the American People.

Second, you might wanna question whether folks making $30K or less should be having kids in the first place.

In any case, back to REALITY, as I keep repeating ad infinitum, there would be some degree of subsidization - "rounding the rough edges" - in place to deal with the poor, just as we have Section 8 Housing, Food Stamps, Medicaid, etc.

"The rich could always buy supplemental coverage..."

Again... (*SIGH*)... my focus is neither on "the rich" nor "the poor." What I'm focused on is the "norm," the middle class.

As to "supplemental coverage..."

Under my system they'd be no NEED for "supplemental coverage. Catastrophic coverage would kick in where it kicks in and as a safety net prior to that there would be the HSAs/MSAs.

Rob. Again. Deal with what I'm proposing, not some skewed version of it.

(*SHRUG*)

BILL

Rodak said...

Yet somehow the parents can afford to have two children in the first place...???

Ah, you advocate means testing as a qualifier for parenthood. Sounds almost Maoist, but it might be a good move.

Again, Rob, you're focused on the minority; I'm focused on the great mass of the American People.

What's the mean salary for a family of 4 in the U.S. today? Regardless of what it is, yes, you focus your effort where there is need. Once the need has been addressed, your social contract has been fulfilled.

I can't deal with what you're proposing because the "norm" is not the locus of the problem that needs to be addressed. Again, you can look at the issue from the amoral persepctive of a bean-counter whose only interest is in mathematical "facts," or you can look at it from a moral perspective, according to which the need of one citizen places an obligation to address that need on the part of society that is not in need. And this may well required actual sacrifice on the part of the "haves."

William R. Barker said...

"Ah, you advocate means testing as a qualifier for parenthood."

Nope. Just pointing out the obvious.

People have rights; they also have responsibilities. I realize that this concept is anathema to you.

(*CHUCKLE*) (*WINK*)

"What's the mean salary for a family of 4 in the U.S. today?"

Google it.

(*AMUSED SMIRK*)

"...you focus your effort where there is need. Once the need has been addressed, your social contract has been fulfilled."

To each according to his need, huh? (*SMILE*) Back to square one. I cite facts and logic; you cite Marxist jargon.

(*RUEFUL BUT STILL AMUSED SHAKE OF THE HEAD*)

"I can't deal with what you're proposing..."

Obviously.

Well... I can't wave a magic want and up your IQ nor can I teach you EVERYTHING over the internet.

C'est la vie...

(*SMILE*) (*SHRUG*)

Thanks for dropping in, Rob.

BILL

William R. Barker said...

Rob,

Apologies for the IQ crack.

Truth be told, you and I just look at the world through different eyes.

BILL

Rodak said...

The system that you advocate is simply the one that is already in place, and has been in place, and has failed. You think that you can change the spark plugs and make it all better, when it's the transmission that's shot to hell.
What is needed is to try a different way; one that's been tried--successfully--elsewhere.
And yet you think it's ME that needs to learn new tricks.
Oh, well...

William R. Barker said...

"The system that you advocate is simply the one that is already in place.."

And on that note this discussion is clearly over.

Rob. I was right the first time. You're off your meds and there's no reasoning with you.

To say that the system I advocate is the one that exists is so far off the reservation - so far removed from reality - as to demonstrate that any further discussion would be a waste of time.

BILL

Rodak said...

Until you get rid of the corporate profit motive--which you don't--you are only painting flames around the wheelwells of the same ol' jalopy.